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this week we've heard the contention of

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UFO researchers that there's a secret

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government within our government while

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that may be hard to believe coming from

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the UFO perspective we've certainly

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learned in Watergate and the iran-contra

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scandal that factions within our

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government can and do pursue pursue

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their own hidden agendas outside of the

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law outside the control of Congress or

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the Knology of the American people this

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is exactly the type of operation we'll

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hear about tonight it's a chilling

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scenario with worldwide implications

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that may have its roots right here area

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51 that mysterious corner of the Nevada

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Test Site is no longer much of a secret

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the fact that secretive things go on

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here is a given even to the Soviets who

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make daily spy flights over the facility

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to take a peek at what's going on these

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photos never before shown in public are

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about as close as anyone will ever come

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to seeing what the place looks like

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again the dry bed of groom Lake

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corrugated metal buildings a three mile

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long runway and some highly

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sophisticated radar and detection

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equipment it's been known by many names

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over the years

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dreamland the ranch the skunk works if

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ever there was a place to test a secret

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new technology this is it and that's

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exactly what's been done here for

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decades 51 is where stealth technology

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was nurtured where star wars devices are

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still tested and were all manner of CIA

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monkey business has been plotted and

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refined it's the perfect place for

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secret things but of course that's no

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secret 51 is ringed by the forbidden

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vastness of the Nevada Test Site by the

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looming groom mountains and by sparsely

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populated desert expanses speculation

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was heightened in 1984 when the Air

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Force seized nearly 90,000 acres around

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groom Lake the action was by most

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accounts illegal during congressional

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hearings about the land grab Congressman

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John Seiberling grilled the military

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about the legal authority used in the

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action and was told the authority was at

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a much much higher level than the Air

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Force Seiberling asked what authority is

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higher than the laws of the United

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States the Air Force official said he

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could respond but only in a closed

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briefing in 1987 when the air flow

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sought to renew its stranglehold on the

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groom range news articles once again

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mentioned the talk about alien

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spacecraft and subsequent articles in

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national magazines quoted unnamed

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sources about things of alien origin

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flying in Nevada things that would make

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filmmaker George Lucas drool

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despite the speculation no one who knew

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area 51 from the inside ever talked

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publicly about the saucer stories well

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there's several uh actually nine flying

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saucers flying discs that are out there

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of extraterrestrial origin the live

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interview with the shadowy dentist drew

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international attention portions were

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broadcast by radio and six European

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countries and in a nationally televised

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TV special in Japan actually nine flying

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saucers flying tests despite numerous

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inquiries and feelers dennis has

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remained anonymous until now his real

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name is Robert Lazar a young scientist

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with eclectic interests the choice of

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Dennis was an inside joke he says that's

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the name of his superior at Groom Lake

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it wasn't a joke to Dennis he called

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right after he said you have an idea

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what we're gonna do to you I said no he

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hung up the phone

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Lazare story is by any standards

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fantastic he says he's telling it in

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order to protect himself he says he was

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hired to work at an area called s4 which

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is a few miles south of groom lake at s4

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he says are flying saucers antimatter

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reactors and other working examples of

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technology that is seemingly beyond

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human capabilities right this this came

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from somewhere else I mean as bizarre as

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that is to believe but I mean it's there

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I saw it I know what the current state

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of the art is and in in physics and it's

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it can't be done checking out lazarre's

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credentials proved to be a difficult

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task he says he earned degrees in

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physics and electronics but the schools

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we contacted say they've never heard of

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him he also said he worked as a

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physicist at Los Alamos National Lab

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where he experimented with one of the

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world's largest particle beam

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accelerators a half mile long behemoth

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capable of generating 700 million volts

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Los Alamos officials told us they had no

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records of her Robert Lazar ever working

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there they were either mistaken or were

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lying a 1982 phone book from the

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lists Lazar right there among the other

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scientists and technicians a 1982

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clipping from the Los Alamos newspaper

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profiled Lazar and his interest in jet

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cars - mentioned his employment at the

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lab as a physicist we called those

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Alamos again an exasperated official

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told us he still had no records on Lazar

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EG&G which is where Lazar says he was

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interviewed for the job at s4 also has

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no records it's as if someone has made

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him disappear or they're trying to make

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me a non-person explain you called where

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well the schools that I went to the

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hospital that was born it passed job and

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essentially nothing comes up with my

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name in it

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he smiles but out of futility knowing

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the whole thing must sound ridiculous I

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security matter some of it sure but just

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the concept that there's definite proof

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and we even have articles from another

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world another system you just can't not

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tell everyone work now Eyewitness News

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are you Robert Scott the Tsar yes

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about whether you have lied about flying

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saucers or antimatter control do you

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intend to answer my questions truthfully

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yes did you knowingly lie when you said

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that you had actually seen anti-gravity

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propulsion in operation did you

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knowingly lie when you said you had seen

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an antimatter reactor did you knowingly

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lie when you said that you actually saw

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this is a hard part of the story for

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people understand it said they they they

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don't really get a sense of what it was

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like because really literally you had to

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be there for some of this I lived

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through it I know what it was like what

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bob was going through at that time they

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were breaking into his house and playing

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mind games you know they'd leave the

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doors open they'd leave drawers open

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nothing's taken and right things on his

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blackboard or erase things move things

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around he goes to the gym with us with

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his buddy and he's kind of scared so

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he's got an Uzi in his car he comes out

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an hour later after working out the

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doors to the car open the windows are

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down the glove box is open and the Uzi

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is laying there on the front seat it

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wasn't a burglary that was somebody

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messing with him that stuff really

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happened it's both frightening and

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infuriating

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do you on a deeper level trust Bob story

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now than before what you take away from

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it 25 years later after sitting down

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with Bob and hearing him tell this story

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with the same details he's not adding

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any stuff to it doesn't have to worry

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about remembering the truth because he

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remembers the same version the same

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story the same way same details and he's

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telling things that actually happened to

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him I tend to it it carries a lot of

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weight with me I had 25 years later

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still telling the same story reluctantly

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by the way this is a reluctant UFO

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Messiah the only reason he came out to

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talk to us again is cuz I bugged him

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about it relentlessly come on Bob when

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you coming out are we there yet kind of

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a and he finally relented and came out

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but he wasn't happy about it

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nothing good comes from the UFO field

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for him it does nothing but cause him

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trouble if he had to do it over again I

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suspect he wouldn't do it

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because he changed his life and there

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was a part of him as he said in our most

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recent conversation there's a part of

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them that would really like to still be

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working on that stuff I mean it was

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really amazing technology the most

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amazing technology he's ever seen I

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think I believe the story more

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than it did before the idea that bob was

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a disinformation agent or part of a

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program to mislead the public is wrong

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he's not and I can say that or knowing

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the guy for a quarter of a century the

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story he told then is the story he tells

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now he didn't add to it he's not making

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it more elaborate he's not remembering

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new parts of it it's the same story it's

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okay go ahead you got involved with this

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program I had sent resumes to several

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national labs around the country I got a

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response to McCullough they said we

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might have something in the near future

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you would be very interested in you know

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you say you work on little projects I

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said yeah I have a particle accelerator

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in my master bedroom and and things of

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that sort and some time went by and they

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called me back in they said there was a

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senior staff physicist that was leaving

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this organization they basically

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okay you you're there on the first day

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what happens on the first day first day

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was mine I read close to the free 120

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one of these things right now Lincoln

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read what did they say here's some

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reaction it produces a gravity field

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that's not completely understood one of

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the things that they were teaching it

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was the physics they can't call this

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together to create fields and power such

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as these discs required to do what they

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do to lift off the ground without a body

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of own propulsion system requires it's a

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tremendous of my energy how does that

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work I mean how does that feel become

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useful it's the most potent energy

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source that there can be just as a rough

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estimate a kilogram of antimatter is

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people on interview 247 10 Megaton

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hydrogen bombs

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it's an extremely potent energy sources

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direct conversion of matter to energy

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if you want to tell the full story of

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John Lear you have to cover the story of

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Bob Lazar and the only way to do that is

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I talked about I don't know if it'll

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talk to you or not but you need to try

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well it was it's all gonna be

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circumstance for you is the moment that

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you approach him the mood that he's in

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what else is going on in his life at the

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time you might hit the jackpot and get

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him in exactly the right time and the

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the universe is aligned and he's willing

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to talk about it but you'd have to be

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awfully lucky because in general Bob

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doesn't like to talk about I think he's

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very happy in his life he's happy to

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have left the UFO stuff behind he misses

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his friends he misses John Lear he

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misses Jeanne huff maybe even me some

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extent but he doesn't miss the UFO topic

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and he doesn't miss talking about it

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because ultimately it's disturbing these

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are disturbing issues they go to the

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heart of who we are as people as human

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beings the nature of reality itself is

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this a computer simulation are we all

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the product of an alien videogame or

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some multi-dimensional movie drive-in

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movie theater production or something

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big questions disturbing answers and bob

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has never been comfortable and talking

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you know look you can nitpick anything

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you know to the point where you find

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inconsistencies and then you can add

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those inconsistencies up and say you

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know what this can't be true but the

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thing is you can do that with factual

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events and this was the vacuole then

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where I mean where the project is now

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where the parts are now you know this is

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all twenty years ago so I know there are

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alien craft here from another planet I

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know I saw other ones but I was inside

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one I know was not made on earth I know

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it was made with materials that we

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cannot fabricate we cannot duplicate and

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we've never been able to I know it uses

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a power source that's so advanced that

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we could only dream of something along

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those lines and the energy density on it

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is phenomenal it's nothing that I would

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ever expect to see I know that you know

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this is done in the highest levels of

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security and you know that they use all

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kinds of methods to keep it quiet from

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disinformation I mean some exotic ways

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of just hiding things like I said the

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installation itself was buried in the

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side of a mountain and you know I also

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know that there's lots of nonsense

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information that has gone around and

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whether it was started by the Navy or

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military or whoever's at the absolute

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bottom you know of the project and I

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truly suspect that be the case because

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what disinformation is the most powerful

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you know way to distort facts you just

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throw a bunch of useless stuff out there

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and you know they just take the real

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facts along with the nonsense and bundle

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it together and say well this is just

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impossible and you know there your

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security is maintained but I also know

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that at some point they've examined or

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had bodies of alien creatures somewhere

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so I know that stuff for a fact and

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that's the bottom line

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well I am telling the truth I've tried

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to prove that what's going on up there

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could be the most important event in

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history you're talking about contact

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physical physical contact and proof from

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another another system another planet

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and other intelligence that's got to be

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the biggest event in history period and

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Lazare says he has no intention of going

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on in a UFO lecture circuit he's not

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looking to do any additional interviews

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in fact he wasn't too crazy about doing

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this one he did it after certain

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unfavorable things started happening in

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his life and he did it because he feels

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that whoever is running the show up at

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s4 is perpetrating a fraud on the

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American people and on the scientific

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community you believe his story don't

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you yeah yeah I've got to know him

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pretty well over the last couple of

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months and I believe he's telling the